EPISODE 7

Preview: 

Angie Sanchez:There is no such thing as past life and a smiling while I say that because  past life is almost the catchy phrase for the general public to be like oh that’s interesting I’m interested in what my past life was. But however 

Calvin Wayman: You’re saying there is past life or there is no past life or body. You mean you mean that we were always existing. Like what’s kind of ..

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. Yeah.

 

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Calvin Wayman: What is up curious peeps this episode is a perfect example of why I even started this podcast. This is something that is just a conversation I’m super curious about and so I wanted to bring somebody on and talk about it so you might see this unrelated to business or anything like, that but it’s just going to be a super-fun conversation so I’m gonna be bringing on an Angie Sanchez. Angie Sanchez is a certified quantum healing hypnosis practitioner, I know kind of a long title but during sessions with her people go through past lives and connect with their higher self so when I did ayahuasca I had this whole experience with like past lives and stuff like that and I didn’t think that past lives were even a thing and now that I’ve gone through that experience it’s hard not to so believe that there are such a thing there is such a thing as past lives so this episode might be a little bit crazy for some people which I’m totally fine with because quite frankly I would have probably thought something like this would have been crazy like even four or five months ago but at the same time I find it super interesting it would have been it’s super interesting to me now and so I hope you enjoy the conversation that I’m about to have. So again and Angie Sanchez she’s somebody that I met actually recently in San Diego at an event we both shared the same stage together and she’s just an awesome human being she just her passions like helping people uncover and discover universal truths within themselves and the goal with the work that she does is ultimately to help people make sense of their souls purpose you know, and just feel empowered to take life head-on so she’s a super awesome human being I am excited to bring her on the podcast and have a conversation so let’s dive in.. 

Angie Sanchez what’s up my friend?

Angie Sanchez: The world the world is out.

Calvin Wayman: That’s true.

Angie Sanchez: There are just things going on. Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: Having a good thing is good since the epic event?

Angie Sanchez: Actually, I was in Toulouse for a shoot for like I was working on a product it’s actually organic feminine care product and sexual wellness that was really a lot of fun to go down to limb and be in the Jochum goal.

Calvin Wayman: Are you a model as well as hypnosis?

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. No I, I used to model regularly and now it’s just whatever product or brand resonates with weren’t aligned with my core beliefs.

Calvin Wayman: Got it. That makes a ton of sense. Where do you living in? Are you down there inside in your…

Angie Sanchez: No! actually an hour east of Los Angeles.

Calvin Wayman: Gotcha. OK. So you’re in it. So when ..

Angie Sanchez: I’m at the base of the mountains.

Calvin Wayman: So the so when I saw you on stage at that same event that we both spoke at the epic mastermind in San Diego. That was the first time that I’ve ever seen you or heard of people like you. Well I’ve heard something of it before like because what you do you’re considered like your title is something like Quantum Healing hypnosis practitioner or something like that right?

Angie Sanchez: Yes exactly. Exactly.

Calvin Wayman: So what was your connection to that. You’re like Jason’s hypnosis or something like that or like how did you like how did they know like, ok this is somebody that needs to come speak at this event.

Angie Sanchez: To the event. So I actually know Tommy MOSLEY You know.

Calvin Wayman: Got it! Yeah Tommy is actually going to be on the podcast.

Angie Sanchez: Oh Tommy’s amazing.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah he’s super awesome.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: Chat with us. We both have something in common. He was like a pastor or something? Right?

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. You too?

Calvin Wayman: I wasn’t. But as of we chatted briefly in San Diego as well. I have officially left religion similar to him for different reasons. I just live in this small town small community and that’s just kind of a life choice that I made. And like it’s since San Diego I’ve made it official on my social media whole long story a lot of good things and drama things around that. But we just connected on that level because we’ve gone through stuff similar so we’re going to have a podcast episode like talk about that type of stuff. So you know him?

Angie Sanchez: That so interesting he’s there. Yes I know Tommy but it’s interesting that he has someone else mouse at the San Diego APIC mastermind had a similar experience.

Calvin Wayman: Really?

Angie Sanchez: But he was a pastor. Actually there was someone else. I’m surprised you guys didn’t connect.

Calvin Wayman: Maybe I did it. I connected with two other people on their grammar sounds good because there were two other people my friend Matt, I think he’s pretty open about that. And then my friend T.J. I think his name is that was that was.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah yeah T.J

Calvin Wayman: So I chatted with him too so it’s just interesting how we kind of got it. We didn’t go deep into like backstory conversations but I did hang out with him a little bit. So yeah it is kind of it’s kind of interesting. Now one thing..

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: One thing that I was curious about what you did. First of all you come on stage and you talk a little bit about what you do. Ahm, So then at the end you do this awesome hypnosis thing where you basically put the entire room in a trance. I don’t know what you did there but that was perfect because I spoke like there was one other speaker between you and I. And it was like a perfect reset for me before I got up on stage and spoke. So it was just freakin awesome.

Angie Sanchez: Oh great! I love that.

Calvin Wayman: Just curious like what was that and what is it designed to do. And then I want to get into some other stuff like past lives conversation and like other things. But yeah would love to be curious like what that was.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. So I I was going to read. I didn’t really have a plan when I walked on stage. I knew I was going to do them better and hypnosis.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah I like to just like be guided whatever it feels like supposed to come out type.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly yeah. Yes. You know I walked on stage and I was like it’s gonna be really important for me to share a little bit about my personal self my personal life. And so when I walked on one because I wanted people to know that I was human just like everyone else. And to Yeah and to just because I didn’t want people to assume that I I know it’s were put on a platform of authority when we speak at the same time I feel like it’s really important to have that connection with everyone in the room.

Calvin Wayman: Totally.

Angie Sanchez: So yeah. So we spoke a little bit about that. And then what I began with was an exercise to just help people realize that they can see or use imagination to see other worlds. So the first one was what was your last meal.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah.

Angie Sanchez: And we can all remember what the last meal was.

Calvin Wayman: Totally.

Angie Sanchez: So that was more an actual size too for people to just realize that once we have those memories and you close your eyes and you think back on those moments you were almost reliving those moments. So as you remember we did you know that trend coming sitting on the plot of a train. And then we also did the actual size of it. It was a train and then it was the other one.

Calvin Wayman: I probably would’ve done summer.

Angie Sanchez: You know I’m like I know it had it was a train. It wasn’t. There was a few that we didn’t do we didn’t do the carriage so on how

Calvin Wayman: I have a note here that you said that you something like who who was there last year who was here for the first time. No. OK. Those were not my questions you asked. Somebody came at some point and like you were with somebody from your past life right. Because I have for some reason I a note of my grandfather here that I saw somewhere in your facility.

Angie Sanchez: OK. Yeah. What about the second one. But the first one basically was just getting people to realize that they can see different things. Oh I know what it was it was standing on the corner of a busy street.

Calvin Wayman: Yes. And you’re just watching and you’re just watching everything happening and things like that.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly. Yeah exactly. So people got to see it. Close your eyes when you just visualize seeing yourself standing on a corner of busy street. And some people may go to times of somebody like New York City or anybody would you know just go or just different places and so that actually is ..

Calvin Wayman: what’s the point of that is that you have Is it just seeing that your mind can experience that does it have any sort of meditative component like some meditation that I follow guided meditatios talk about thinking of either busy streets or clouds or something without getting caught up in it. Right. So you’re watching busyness but you’re not the busyness you’re like the observer of the business is there that element of meditative or is it completely different.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah it’s a different approach. The approach that I’m taking or were taking is as Quantum Healing is that imagination. I’m really going to go on a deep end here. To imagination OK the imagination is vibrating on a fifth dimensional level. So right now we’re talking on a third dimensional level where we’re using our tool goals communicate. We’re talking about very practical things something that we experience. Fifth Dimension is imagination and then some. So when you use imagination to see yourself on the corner of a busy street you’re almost transferring a part of your consciousness into that reality.

Calvin Wayman: Got it.

Angie Sanchez: So your mind can then experience the busyness of the street in a place that they’ve never been before but sometimes they see the details of that busy street goals

Calvin Wayman: But still goes there.

Angie Sanchez: But still go there exactly. So consciousness is now travelling to a different time and space and that’s the whole goal of getting that exercise going so that’s why start with what was your last meal. Because the last meal was very practical. We all had just eaten. And just like you remember your last meal. It’s something that you can go back to that moment in time.

Calvin Wayman: So with naming it with it being called something like Quantum Healing Is there like similar to quantum physics? Like why is that word quantum in it.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. So it’s not defined by you know it’s called past like what we call it possibly regression but it’s really. There is no such thing as past lives and a smiling why I say that because it’s past life is almost the catchy phrase for the general public to be like oh that’s interesting I’m interested in what my past life was. But however

Calvin Wayman: You’re saying there is past life or there is no past life. You mean you mean that we were always existing. Like what’s kind of one brother.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. So there is no past life. Everything is happening simultaneously at one time.

Calvin Wayman: So you’re saying that’s the that’s going even deeper. You’re not saying you’re not saying like we didn’t we don’t necessarily exist outside of this human form you’re saying no we did. But it’s happening now it’s happening simultaneously. So you’re going to acquire deep.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly. Exactly. So I’m biting clarify that thank you. Yes so what we’re doing is just going into a different frequency of time and space. So that’s the quantum in Quantum Physics Quantum Healing it’s just penetrating that reality that we know exists but then looking at a different microscope.

Calvin Wayman: So so I want to kind of shirt one of the reasons when I was like Dude we should just push record and talk about this. We were talking at this speaker dinner and we started to go somewhere deep and then things were happening and I mentioned something like AYAHUASCA and perked up and was about to have that conversation to have that now but I want to kind of set the stage of where where I’m at with this stuff and let you kind of drive and guide like different insights. So we’re talking about past lives right now. Something that’s interesting is like four months ago even if you would’ve told me something about past life I would of like brush it off and be like What the fuck are you talking about. That’s crazy talk. Like no. Like that’s just something that gypsies talk about and it’s like this fake stuff. But right to kind of catch people up in November. For those of you that don’t fall for anybody that may not follow me on social media quite yet in November I went to Costa Rica and to do ayahuasca. So iyahuasca for those of you listening is psychedelic. It’s used as a tool for like going super deep in many areas. It’s a very spiritual experience and my experience was super deep super horrible and awesome.All at once it was it was. It was definitely inexperience. Some people just to give a little bit of context where we could have like 5 hours just talking about ayahuasca. The first experience I had. It usually is supposed to take like three to five hours and my first night was that way but the second I was on it like it was working for 14 hours. So it took me to some really deep places and one of the places it took is I started having early memories so it was super cool super vivid like I remembered things about myself how just how you asked what was your last meal?

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: It was that vivid as just anybody listening to this when your last meal I could remember your last minute because it is your last meal was I was remembering that about when I was 5 and 6 years old.

Angie Sanchez: Wow.

Calvin Wayman: Like super clear and younger. I was watching myself almost as a memory as like a four and five year old boy laying on my stomach looking at ants like it was so freaking cool and the weapons flashing back and forth like when I was super young to when I was like 8,9 and then 12 and experience different memories that I already have thought of and some place before summer and my memories are not just made up stuff they’re like real memories that actually happened but I haven’t thought of them for like 15 years at least. And so it was really cool to see that. But then something really interesting happened. After I was having these memories I again I was having memories of like when I was 4. But then I started having memories of when I was 2 and then 1 and then I kept slipping deeper and deeper to where I then had memories before I was born

Angie Sanchez: in the womb?

Calvin Wayman: Before that.

Angie Sanchez: Before that? OK.

Calvin Wayman: Before that it was like I was in existence.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: Yes some other energy and we were on Woskett it’s not so much mental it’s more feeling. So I could feel that I existed outside of this form before this like human thing. And you’re saying it happens like subconsciously but I say all of this just to give the context of I felt like I very clearly existed before this life. Now further told me that you could have existed before this life though had just been crazy talk. Like no. Conceived and then I existed I die and then I’m done. But going through this experience it be super hard near to impossible for somebody to convince me now that you did not exist before this life because it was so clear and so vivid that no I obviously did. And I explored various different things. So I said all that just for you in the context like maybe you can help guide and make sense of my experience or like anything related to past lives or like one of the things that I know you do as you like help uncover and discover universal truths about yourself and so just curious like what past lives are like what you do with them and where you want to guide the convo.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah so when you went beyond that before you were born did you. Were you in white light space? or how what was like.

Calvin Wayman: Both I would say that I saw there were white light stuff but then there were like almost like a feeling and an energy of of me living as a thing that was not non-human like

Angie Sanchez: Did you saw floating or

Calvin Wayman: Sometimes there was a time where like I you so much and it was all jumbled. There was a time where there were no rules. There was not time or space. And so my living entity Earth essence whatever it was could float and could go super high like I went up into the universe and look down at the World and other stars and then I wouldn’t zoom back down and went even more into my body like saw things on like a cellular level and you go really crazy. I was like and there’s no time or rules what I want to do. I would actually like go into other people and like experience their life. And since that time I experience what it would be like to live that person from the very beginning of their life all through the end of their life until they died and then I died. And that wasn’t really scary because I still existed. So then I did it again with other people like lived their life and died lived their life and died and then I did it with myself. Even like different versions of my own life and died. Like

Angie Sanchez: Yeah

Calvin Wayman: Like again I don’t know if this is getting to the area that starts to get cuckoo for you is like a hypnosis.

Angie Sanchez: No. For me Are you ready. Yeah. Like all familiar territory for me.

Calvin Wayman:  Really.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. Yeah absolutely.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah. So yeah. So let’s go deeper here then like what’s going on and how can it be used in like hypnosis in terms of like healing and what what what’s happening from your understanding .

Angie Sanchez: From my understanding. Yeah because you are so much that we don’t understand right? We don’t we don’t even know yet. Excuse me. Basically there and I’m sure you might have seen this during the ayahuasca experience is that we this is one existence

Calvin Wayman:  have you been in Ayahuasca by the way?

Angie Sanchez: I have. Twice.

Calvin Wayman: Awesome. Yeah yeah

Angie Sanchez: yeah totally. I mean we again you’re talking about that.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah that’s what we start talking about. Before we had to divert the

Angie Sanchez: She kept getting interrupted it was so funny.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah having it here.

Angie Sanchez: SAM. Yeah. So basically this is one existence right. And then there the people call it the bell. So they say we’re O’Steen through the veil. So beyond this existence is another dimension another veil.

Calvin Wayman: Right.

Angie Sanchez: And then there’s another and then there’s another and then there’s another. So and then on top of all that existence of time and space we have a team of people that work with us so some people call this higher self and call it Ancestor’s Call it guys. Some people call it anyways. It’s a team of

Calvin Wayman: So the same concept of higher self and those people that support you.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah

Calvin Wayman: Or kind of the same concept because I remember you doing something like this where we like in the on stage we saw somebody else that was guiding us for me I saw my great grandfather.

Angie Sanchez: Fact

Calvin Wayman: That it’s so those guys are the same thing as like your true higher self that’s trying to guide your soul I guess.

Angie Sanchez: So high self is the Godsil. Our very own got so. And then there other people or entities spirits whatever you want to call them but assist us on the journey. Some Hubel believe that it can be for an alien race. I mean yes. Yeah that’s just where this all goes back. So beyond the this dimension this veil that we see this reality the room I’m in there is something else happening and then beyond that there’s something else happening. And then beyond that there is there is a future but it’s all happening at the same time. So with that being said we have these guys including our higher selves that are helping us with that that are helping us live the lives that we came here to live. So when people do hypnosis did they do any sort of guided meditation. They are being guided by those team of people that are helping them access information that will help a longer journey. Sometimes when when you get an idea it can also come from those team of people that are just giving you.

Calvin Wayman: Like a flood of insight

Angie Sanchez: Type insight or sometimes people with your were. I hear dialogue. I get dialogue.

Calvin Wayman: Really?

Angie Sanchez: Yeah absolutely. And that’s what happens during hypnosis during the higher portion the person has or I ask questions to higher open. We’re having full on dialogue that the hurt the conscious self is not really aware of.

Calvin Wayman:God I want to pause here for me take a step back some of this stuff and analyze it because like just knowing myself again if it is having this conversation like four months ago it either would have gone over my head or it would have not made any sense. Like one of the things that I still struggle with that I would love to go deeper on is timelessness or everything happening at the same time you’ve mentioned that like in this world that we live in where we’re so attached to time. Like how would you explain to me like what that is actually like or is like is it just something you gotta like taken like no try to get ready get this like. Is there a way to help me kind of understand everything happening at the same time.

Angie Sanchez: So yeah every well you know it’s really hard for us to comprehend a lot of these analogies because our brain doesn’t really function on that quantum level which in a way is good because imagine if you did function that way all the time you would kind of lose grasp the reality and a peddling cold reality. So it’s good that we don’t really understand that to the fullest capacity. At the same time we are. It’s good to be aware that every action we take creates a reality. So if you were to sit on your couch and not do anything you’re creating a reality for your future self. That salt is already in existence because the actions you’re taking is creating that time. If you’re taking action to create you know your product in the world or who you are in the world that action is creating is aligning yourself with that future self that already exists in the world. You just have to come into that alignment.

Calvin Wayman: So the key is to take actions that a line with the greatest possible version of yourself is that type.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly.

Calvin Wayman: What is your what would your highest self do type of a thing like what does your soul actually want.

Angie Sanchez: My heart self would be here talking with you.

Calvin Wayman: There we go. BE2. That’s why this podcast exists. I’m like holy cow. This is a good segue. Literally that’s why we’re having this conversation. Like I never thought I was going to do a podcast and in Costa Rica my highest Self was like dude you should do a podcast. I thought that way that has passed and I was like actually you know what I love having conversations with cool people. And yeah even if this podcast doesn’t turn into anything where I’m making hundreds of thousands of dollars with it are millions of dollars at least I can talk to people like Angie Sanchez and hit record.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly.

Calvin Wayman: So I’m not I’m not surprised that it’s aligning there now something else that you’ve mentioned. You said God Self.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: And I think that might like. I’ve had I have some Christian friends who one thing that was unique in Mormonism. That’s what I grew up in we believed in we believe in the religion that you can become a God. But a lot of my Christian friends think that that’s being disrespectful to God or Jesus to think that you could become a God. And what you’re saying is based on your understanding in your work you literally can like you’re like there’s a version of you. Call it your highest self or something like that. That can get to that ultimate point. Talk about that.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. I’m gonna say it to my best ability not because I’m always very aware of not offending anyone.

Calvin Wayman: Totally.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. So this is really hard because I come from a Catholic background and so a lot of your faith is in an outside source beyond yourself. Right. And this was a hard thing for me to do. But I remember realizing that we are God that everywhere there is God within us because we are made of God and if we’re a sons and daughters of God then that God saurus lives in us. Just like your your kids are a part of you because you’ve had your kids. So I remember having this moment where I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like you you I am God I am God. And from one perspective it may sound narcissistic from another perspective it’s acknowledging the divine being within the self Raytheon’s body.

Calvin Wayman: It’s like I’m not just a drop in the ocean I am the ocean in a drop.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly exactly.

Calvin Wayman: So recently emotionally

Angie Sanchez: Hard. It’s still hard to from the conditioning of religion it’s hard to even think that it’s like that moment I had when I was looking at myself in the mirror I remember thinking yesterday oh like it’s happening right now. I literally thought who am I to say this. And I was like No it was like it was a voice out of my head voice out of my head. And then just really look at yourself on your eyes look at yourself and acknowledge that one the power the ability to create the ability to be present in the world to connect with people to love you know to to just receive ideas and produce. I mean that’s it’s divine, you know.

Calvin Wayman: It totally is one thing that’s super interesting withhold. This is with timelessness even it makes a lot more sense to me how people say like enjoy that journey and not wait till you’re trying to get there because a lot of at least the way I was brought up it was like wait like work your face off to get to the point or hope that you get to the point of something like you’re always waiting for the destination of something that what you’re saying. It’s more of like I already am it like it’s a knowledge moment instead of like there’s there’s a sense of like effortlessness in it that’s interesting. It’s like surrendering to what is true and then letting your higher self like guide you on the actions that you should take if that is you and stuff like that. Right?

Angie Sanchez: Exactly. Yeah I’ll give you two examples. One was being out the mastermind in San Diego. I remember walking in the room and I remember thinking to myself whoa why am I here. You know the audience is completely like this is completely left field hypnosis by the iPhonetime. It’s a complete left field. And then I thought to myself and it was almost like that voice it was like while you wouldn’t be here if you weren’t supposed to be here

Calvin Wayman: Totally.

Angie Sanchez: So it’s a trusting right. The second analogy or example is we think of yourself as God experiencing the world. So even when you’re having a tough time or you’re going through a depression think of that and it’s going to be hard. But think of that as God experiencing what depression is like through your body through your essence through your world. So it’s almost like observing yourself experience life and it just makes everything so magical.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah because you’re getting all perspective of life because it’s not just let the bliss all the time and there’s joy that that was one of the things that I got out of Ayahuasca too is this realization that some of these things like fear for example aren’t necessarily bad like or even depression like it’s it’s it’s it’s a feeling. But it could either be like either your higher self guiding you in a way or at the very least giving you understanding and empathy from that perspective and point of view.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly.

Calvin Wayman: At least that’s what it felt like and something I’m curious about for you is like you said you do in Ayahuasca twice Yeah. Yeah. When was the last time or like what was missing between those.

Angie Sanchez: So the first time was in June I want to say Genty thousand last year.

Calvin Wayman: So we both said yeah

Angie Sanchez: you’re okay. The first time you know because of my work and my understanding of the world I wanted to understand I wanted to see it visually how it all came together.

Calvin Wayman: OK.

Angie Sanchez: I wanted to travel through the dimension and connect DNA and connect you know the matrix you know.

Calvin Wayman: How was that?

Angie Sanchez: Everything I needed. I was so like so grateful to feel to see the it’s almost like the movie The Matrix that’s how that was how my experience with anybody.

Calvin Wayman: What di you mean by that?

Angie Sanchez: It began with me seeing it thrives and in our existence. I don’t know.

Calvin Wayman: I mean everyone very familiar are very familiar with the matrix.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. So seeing the threads like the numbers of. So this this is awesome. I lewdly saw this face as its isolation

Calvin Wayman: As like totally. I had a similar experience like that in Ayahuasca.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. And so it explained the because it explains how we create our own realities. How our beliefs shape our world how we can limit ourselves through destruction how distractions are purposely placed there. You know a high

Calvin Wayman: Wire destruction’s place there?

Angie Sanchez: I feel like it’s I feel like it’s there to help us fight through the distractions. It’s there to really realize that our purpose is to you know make a big impact on the world or whatever or create a family. And if there are distractions are there and you get distracted. You really want to make an impact on the world.

Calvin Wayman: Gotcha!

Angie Sanchez: You really. Yeah. So that’s why I feel like everything is working in our favor. And so for as long as you fall for this trap the longer that it takes for you to arrange that.

Calvin Wayman: The funny thing about that is literally last night I was looking so that I was looking at my old youtube videos from a YouTube show called Minner case study. We talked about the reform of the beard. I’m not shaving toy finish my million but I have several episodes in mid 2016. I’m writing my first book .

Angie Sanchez: Okay.

Calvin Wayman: And so that would be arguably at that point the time where I am finally putting something out there to have my greatest impact on the world. Up to that point getting my message out there to the world.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: I had never felt more distracted in my life or did not have to fight destruction more in that time period ever in my entire life. So that actually makes a lot of sense to hear you say that like they’re to like work through. And I talk about it in my video. It was like crazy like I would set time aside. That was my one thing. And so many things trade my house never looked cleaner let’s just say that like any little thing I could think of my mind got distracted so that so that was one of the. Did you have that awareness before. I was scared of that become more clear.

Angie Sanchez: And just being unclear. It made sense because I’ve always had this knowing I just didn’t know why I knew or how I knew it. So during my Ayahuasca experience I wanted to know how I knew this and why any of those. And who was with me to comprehend this to on this journey.

Calvin Wayman: Did you have any surprising findings on your Ayahuasca they were like Haim wouldn’t have expected learning that or seeing not I’m like OK I had that on a surface level but now I really get it deeper.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah the first time there were many there is one specific image that I remember like it being mindblowing. But the second time was the one that I was like I wasn’t expecting that at all. You know I did it on December like the first weekend of December and it was one day and I remember just kind of going and thinking I’m going to prep for it 2018 and you know kind of have some clarity and all that stuff. And so I went into the journey. And right before that two days before that I actually had a screening for this film that I was a part of. But I was acting in and the film was like very violent. There was like a lot of graphic nudity and I wasn’t there to break the film and I was like around that it was kind of like a Quentin Tarantino style.

Calvin Wayman: OK.

Angie Sanchez: And he didn’t realize how much that was embedded in my subconscious so the beginning of my journey in Ayahuasca was going through these layers of just violence but it wasn’t me it was because I had just seen that movie. So I don’t it.

Calvin Wayman: Interesting.

Angie Sanchez: And I don’t recommend anyone to watch anything violent or graphic before going on a journey. But after that after all of that that whole layer was lifted. I saw myself. I don’t know if this is how you saw yourself but I saw myself with God and I saw myself going up these steps and I saw these like big angels with like long wings and I looked at myself and I saw myself as one of them. And it was just overwhelming.

Calvin Wayman: You saw yourself as like an A as like an angel?

Angie Sanchez: As like an angel. Yes. I was one of these beings. And in that moment I was like I am making this up you know it looks like wishful thinking or what’s going on here. I was having a conversation with my visions and it was like No this is this is like this is it. There was no ifs ands or buts like it was right. It was fact. It was like living and seeing and that was I remember just being so overwhelmed and crying the whole time and just be like ok. Like OK. And I think part of that was because in what age do you know I’m putting myself more out in the world in my work and and beyond that you know because it’s a scary thing to do like I have some resistance and I’m kind of scared.

Calvin Wayman: Sure.

Angie Sanchez: And I think that was there for me to experience so that I know that I whatever it is going to do or is meant to do in this world is divinely guided it’s not ego it’s like it’s like it’s going to happen because this is why you came here. You know it is. Yeah

Calvin Wayman: It’s that time of sense it’s one of the reasons I feel like I connected with you at the speaker dinner is like I can tell that about you. Your heart and spirit is in the right place. It’s very calm it’s very chill. It’s very like yeah just very warm and heartfelt. I would say.

Angie Sanchez: Thank you.

Calvin Wayman: You’re welcome.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: So my experience you mentioned like seeing yourself with God. If I had something like that the only experience I had similar to that night and I would love to do I was Ayahuasca again or even something like a which is like considered one layer I guess deeper than Ayahuasca?

Angie Sanchez: Although

Calvin Wayman: It’s more masculine they say Ayahuasca is more of a feminine type of energy and an Iboga is like do it this just like show you like just very like country. No but the only experience I had is I had a visual. I had a visual of like almost almost as low as though God was like a tree or the sun of the tree and all of us were like different roots of that tree like spread out all over on the giant tree. But what happens to all the roots. You know they slowly like if you follow them like you’re on the edge of this route and you followed it and traced it back where does it all go.

Angie Sanchez: All it’s the source.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah. At all it’s the source of the trunk like that was the only. Like I didn’t see some physical I had some friends that I was with say they actually saw like Mother God like talking to God is almost like a feminine energy and stuff like I didn’t have anything like that but yeah I thought that was super interesting.

Angie Sanchez: And it’s so profound here really that you’re a part of this trunk Ray.

Calvin Wayman: Yes

Angie Sanchez: you’re that  you are really connected to this trunk.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah I think that’s huge because so many times it’s easy to feel isolated. I mean what do we have like 7 billion people plus on this planet let alone all of the people that have come before us and all the ones that will come after. So I just think it’s kind of it’s kind of nice it feels nice and it even in a deeper way like knowing that you actually are here for something like just you exist for something like you’re in this. And I think it’s kind of cool to realize that it’s not just this like what you’re seeing is not just not just this there’s something else happening. Like what’s your does it for you you’re feeling and understanding how we always existed. Will we always exist.

Angie Sanchez: That’s a good question. I don’t know.

Calvin Wayman: Yeah

Angie Sanchez: I don’t know.

Calvin Wayman: That’s a perfect answer too.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah.

Calvin Wayman: And I think we’re actually kind of wrap it up right there too because what really cool that I’ve gotten out of it and I’d love to hear your closing thoughts on it is as I’ve journeyed through leaning in to what it is I feel like I’m really meant to do. Call it your higher self your soul being divinely guided listening to God. I feel like that it’s okay to not know some things like sometimes when you know the conclusion you know the answer then you’re, You ignore any further. Like understanding that can come from it. And so what has happened to me is like it’s okay to not know because that makes me curious and be okay stepping forward with faith to learn and understand what’s going to unfold. So to you and kind of get your feeling on air I know that

Angie Sanchez: Yeah. This is a perfect ending you’re right. You know I have clients that come in and they want to know the process and the journey and sometimes higher sulfur. The team doesn’t want to tell them does it. It’s not it’s not time for them to know because..

Calvin Wayman: They’re so prudent. Yeah. There’s something for them.

Angie Sanchez: Exactly. And even for myself personally I mean the things I’m doing sometimes like I don’t know why I’m doing this stuff. You know sometimes it’s like I have a YouTube channel as well and a beginning I was like Oh well I don’t have like that many people watching and then it’s like well I don’t know why I’m doing this but it feels right. And I know what to do. And so I’m just going to do it. And you know I remember going into I think it was like a psychic casually and my boyfriend and we were just walking on the strand on Fourth of July I have nothing else to do. It’s like walking in hosts like. And so I remember asking her I was like hey you know I really don’t know why I’m doing all this stuff and she’s like just keep doing what you’re doing and she’s like this is very fascinating. She said God wants to see your reaction when when you shop when you arrive and you see why you’ve been doing all the things you’ve been doing.

Calvin Wayman: That is so awesome.

Angie Sanchez: Like OK you know we still walk away like I don’t know I’m doing stuff.

Calvin Wayman: No no totally. I’ve been getting that a lot especially over the last three years since quitting my day job being on this journey of doing what feels right. Whether I know how like what’s going to happen whether it’s me like being an entrepreneur or leaving my religion like starting the business I’m starting. Like that’s podcast. Where’s it going to go. I don’t know but I’m curious to find out.

Angie Sanchez: Yeah exactly.

Calvin Wayman: Cool. Where’s the best place for people to connect with you. If they wanted to go deeper in your Quantum Healing hypnosis stuff.

Angie Sanchez: For quantum hypnosis email is the best way. Contact at Angie Sanchez-Sanchez.com. I always welcome a 10 15 minute phone call to answer any questions whether or not they want to book a session. They want to learn something about it. I’m open to that. You know I’m very active on instagram so that’s @_Angie SanchezM.Sanchez and Joe. Yeah it’s my YouTube channel. But Instagram would be the best way to just funnel everything.

Calvin Wayman: Awesome. Well it was awesome sharing the stage with you. It was awesome to feel your hypnosis and that this was a phone conversation. Maybe we’ll bump into another one another a different event and maybe we can go even deeper and maybe do some of your magical hypnosis stuff for the podcast.

Angie Sanchez: Yes thank you for having me. It’s an honor to connect with you

Calvin Wayman: You as well.

Angie Sanchez: Thank you.

Calvin Wayman: Take care.

Angie Sanchez: You too.