EPISODE 14
Cracked Podcast Secrets with Jeremy Ryan SlateDO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FREAKING BADASS PODCASTING IS?
Ever thought about starting one of your own? What if you could get front-of-the-line secrets on how to explode onto the scene?
That’s what this episode is all about.
My buddy Jeremy Ryan Slate and I talk about the kickass power of podcasting, and how people can use it to create an awesome life and income stream.
We also talk about some of the detailed tools you probably have never heard of, how to rank higher in iTunes, and even how how to connect with “impossible to reach” people.
This episode freaking rocked, and is my favorite to date. The conversation is just baller. I hope you love it to pieces. Check it out! 🙂
(PS., this episode is brought to you by the Amplify Tour—which I’ll be speaking at in Tampa Florida March 9-11. To catch an awesome special and to see me speak at this event, go to calvinwayman.com/amplifytour)
Transcription:
Preview:
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Like compared to TV or Radio anything else they said it’s the best place for an advertiser to spend their money. So here’s the thing
Calvin Wayman: Really?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. We’re more I’ll find this articles from Wired Magazine. It’s we’re a best place for an advertiser to spend their money. So it’s kind of like if you’re looking at that then sure I can charge more money I don’t need to look at your stupid CPM thing like I don’t need to do that. So 6 months and I was already doing that and I’ve been doing that
Calvin Wayman: So how did you find those sponsors or did they start looking for you what did you just start saying yes
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Calvin Wayman: What is up crew! Thanks for being here on a new episode of The Curious with Calvin Wayman podcast. Now before we jump into the conversation. Let me bring up a word from our sponsor. So this episode is sponsored by the Amplify Tour I’m speaking in Tampa Florida March 9th to the 11th my good friend Yasmin who was on a previous episode is hosting an event. So if you want to come shake hands or hang out or get around other cool people then you got to check out this event. And what’s really cool is people that are in the curious community get a hundred dollar discount on the general admission $200 off of the VIP. So to check it out go to calvinwayman.com/amplifytour. And one other cool things something that Yasemin did that is insanely cool is she added a BOGO deal to this special for the curious community. So BOGO stands for Buy One Get One. So not only you’re getting the discount from the general admission price and the two hundred dollar discount on the VIP you also get a second ticket completely for free. Again this is March 9th to the 11th in Tampa Florida go to calvinwayman.com/amplifytour to check that out and it’d be awesome to see you and to hang out with some other cool people that are going to be there.
Alright now let’s get into it. So I’m here with my man who is actually one of the most fan podcasts I’ve ever been on his show it’s actually I was on his show twice. He is the founder of The Create Your Own Life podcast. He also is someone who makes me feel very insecure if I stand next to him in a mirror because he’s so fuckn huge.
He is my buddy Jeremy Ryan Slate. How you doing my man?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Hey! What’s up Calvin. Hey if there’s a will there’s a way man. How’s it going man?
Calvin Wayman: Doing well. So yeah I started a podcast I joined your league finally well not quite there yet but I’m trying to get closer.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. You’re like doing some crazy stuff man I see like you’re giving away a car. And car like all this other stuff all over the place.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah. So I don’t know how the fuck I’m gonna do that the only caveat is I want to get like 2,000 like reviews. How many reviews do your podcast have? I don’t know if I’m aiming too high.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Surprisingly not that many
Calvin Wayman: So might be at 2000 reviews then that’s keeping me pretty safe for a little bit like I like things need to be going super well to get 2000 reviews to give away the car yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You get 2000 reviews like Lewis Howes. So you know like that’s
Calvin Wayman. Yeah. So that’s kind of the thought like just. I mean if I’m getting it that far then this podcast is way bigger and like people like how do you gonna do that well Frick. Let it fund itself it’s kind of like when I launched my book “Fish Out of Water” I gave away a freaking I gave away an iPod and iPad Mini and a McBook Pro. For people that bought the book and everything but like how the hell did you do that? Well I actually just had like a book a book minimum that I was like to hit each of these prizes this has to happen and freaking Apple bought it.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: So the purchases funded it. So I’m kind of doing the exact same thing. And you mentioned Lewis Howes I probably got that idea similar from him when I’ve gotten some coaching from before. But anyways. Welcome.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah man. I’m stoked to be hanging out with you today. You know it’s I always love watching everything you’re doing man so did he part of your new podcast should be awesome.
Calvin Wayman: What do you where do you live now? What do you up to? It’s been a minute since we’ve chatted.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’m still in the same place I’m in New Jersey about 45 minutes outside of the city. Like my giant bookshelf behind me so you know I’m just
Calvin Wayman: You’re got your Tai Lopez. Thing going on. Back to
Jeremy Ryan Slate: No Tai Lopez..
Calvin Wayman: I know.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You never really had that question
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I know how much you love him. Your bookshelf sir is in your house not in your garage so that’s cool.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Exactly.
Calvin Wayman: So let’s go deep from the start and talk about when you first got into podcasting because I know like you’re doing some cool things with your create your own life podcast but that’s not your first one. Is it? Like you tried it before. So you’re in the entrepreneurial game like
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: we both get how there’s trial and error. So when did you first start a podcast?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: After I tried a bunch of things that like didn’t work like I tried network marketing. I tried direct sales. I tried life insurance and it was gonna like what am I gonna do well I’m gonna try and be a life coach so I started a podcast called rock your life and it’s actually still out there in Google Images if you look the imagery is like so bad. And it went for like 60 days and like nobody listened to it because it’s me talking my Mcbook with no miking and it’s just like it was atrocious man.
Calvin Waymman: Oh really?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Just like the regular thing. What might do have here now? Like this is how much I’m into podcasting now.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: This is an Audio-technica ATR 2500 like gonna whole like boom arm setup here.
Calvin Wayman: Cool. So I got an Audio-technica I got Lewis Howes headsets. I think it’s Audio-technical because I want to be able to like hit the road at different events by the way you’re gonna be in Vegas or not?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I wish manages we got too much going on this month so I’m not gonna like be able to get away I’m even missing Todd fest this week.
Calvin Wayman: Oh yeah! You spoke at that haven’t you?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Last year and spoke at it.
Calvin Wayman: So what did you? What do you talk about when you speak at events like that?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s interesting because your audience is podcasters so like I’m not gonna talk to them about like getting on podcast which is what I typically do so I talked about like strategies about like getting cool guests like cool celebrity guests. So like I use like I usually IMDB Pro and all these other like weird online tools like email hunter idea
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Like
Jeremy Ryan Slate: So
Calvin Wayman: I got from you. I got that email hunter idea from you like a year ago when we were both at that 30 under 30 event.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah I and that’s one thing I always talk to a lot of these guys about like is how you can like hack this different stuff because like I’ve managed to like I actually just talked to Eminem’s publicist yesterday believe it or not I don’t know if it’s gonna go anywhere
Clavin Waymn: But
Jeremy Ryan Slate: But you know actually got through them but a lot of these strategies work for that.
Calvin Wayman: That’s awesome. So circling back so I want to come back to getting super cool guests but let’s go back to so the podcast you first started is rock your life it lasts for 60 days shitty audio.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: OH!
Calvin Wayman: No guests so it’s all solo episode. Do you do any solo episodes yet by the way there’s it all guess.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Barely I used to when I started out I do one every Friday because I was trying to do like what Louis does a five-minute Fridays and I don’t know. I don’t have that much interesting to say and it’s funny because here’s the weird part about that my audience usually comes back to me and seems to like those which I’m just kind of like really?
Calvin Wayman: The solo what’s I do?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. And I just continued them I’ll do them like every once in a while like I did one for New Year. I’ll do one every now and then but no signal
Calvin Wayman: Do you title it solo like how do they know that’s a solo episode or like what’s making it go up or do you just title it normally like you do other ones.
Jeremy Ran Slate: I gave it the similar title but there’s no guest name in it like so like it usually it’s like the title align and the guest name. And when it’s just me I get rid of that you know the guest name but it’s like I also write really good titles for like SEO so I think that helps as well.
Calvin Wayman: How do you know?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You go into Google start typing in like so you think your topic right? You start typing in like different sentences and you see what Google autocompletes. And whatever they autocomplete is usually a good thing to like go with in terms of your title.
Calvin Wayman: I shall do totally do something like that because I literally like my titles are this like after this podcast is done. Right before I give it to my post production editor and everything I literally just think hmmm what’s the main thing about this podcast and then I just come up with a title and like give it to her. But one of my top episodes Michael O’Neal’s was good and I think it was not just because Michael but because the title it was good it was just like how to not suck at podcasting. And
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Retitle?
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. And people and that’s been my top listener. And so I need to try that so you just go to Google and start saying something kind of like what you’re doing and whatever other
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: completes like that’s
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You got to play with it a few times like
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: different phrases and stuff but like Google actually ranks the things that recommends you when autocompletes by how popular they are so usually the first thing is gonna be the most popular so you’re gonna have a better shot of people finding that.
Calvin Wayman: That’s totally awesome. So after you what made you decide to can the first podcast like was it was it consistent like you have like consistent shows now like Monday Wednesday Friday don’t you or someone like that.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yes. Monday Wednesday Friday.
Clavin Wayan: Did you have Monday Wednesday Friday like then or was it just a hobby or what was it then?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It was more or less a hobby it was a Tuesday Thursday thing. Content was never really made ahead of time it was kind of like well it’s 11 o’clock and this needs to be out at midnight. So let’s throw something together and it was never like it was never like thought
Calvin Wayman: You would take it seriously?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: No. It was like never really thought out and it was kind of like you know I’d miss days and all that kind of stuff so it was just kind of like I don’t see where this is going. So it’s easy to quit something when you have no purpose behind it.
Calvin Wayman: Fast forward to. Now you you’ve done some really cool shit with your create your own life podcast you’ve hit new and noteworthy when you came out with it you’ve got ranked like up to like 26 or something.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Ahmm
Calvin Wayman: Hmp walked me through that. So as your bro we’re sitting down having a beer and you’re like bro you’re almost a month into this podcast if I was gonna hit new and noteworthy this is what I would do based on what I’ve learned like what would you tell me.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You can’t hit it anymore is what I tell you?
Calvin Wayman: Can you really not because I’ve been
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s been closed for about a year and a half.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Somebody’s been same it’s the exact same thing so that
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You can look and new noteworthy for categories and some of those shows like haven’t published an episode in like a year because
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. What the
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Hey just kind of tanked and they like froze it like Jinkie podcast way back.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: and it’s still there a new noteworthy for business management and marketing.
Calvin Wayman: So here is the podcasting this is just growing even though is not doing anything or what?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Exactly I was like I’m always talking like Arnie! Come on man you got like free advertising let’s start that podcasting.
Calvin Wayman: Not kidding. You can sell it or something.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yes. That’s like
Calvin Wayman: All that is like prime real estate you’re showing up on new and no where they.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Just change the name or something and just have somebody else
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Got the spot.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. So changing the question then just growing the podcast not new noteworthy which is cool because I don’t want to do anything gimmicky like I’m in this for the freaking long haul I want like it’s just it started out as a fun excuse for me to like talk to cool people like you and just shoot the shit.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: And I want to do that and I want to keep it fun that’s also why I got like a podcast editor for the posting in everything because I literally just finish this give it to them I’m like you know what I want to keep it real and raw so it’s very minimal editing and it’s letting me do this. So what would you tell me till like some tips or ideas on to get the most of it to get more audience listens community and things like that.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. Couple things. One is first good graphic design which you already have so you’re set there.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. My brother Thump now you’re talking
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Another thing is. Yeah! Because you wanted to look good because like that you have to get past that mental barrier people saying oh I just this worth my time to even look at. Is crazy as that is it’s a little thing and it grabs their eye like if you take a look at Greg Clunes from tiny leap tiny leaps big changes podcasts like his cover is bright orange because it grabs everybody’s eye and sticks out from everything so he grabs a little he grabbed a lot of subscribes right away just from that and that’s something just to think about.
Calvin Wayman: Ok.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Reviews are great for social proof but in terms of ranking they don’t matter.
Calvin Wayman: Oh really?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Thing that ranks you is a number of subscribes you can get in a 24-hour period. I did an episode with a guy named Paul Colligan who was one of the first guys to podcast back in like oh 4 so he actually knows what Apple’s back-end stats look like because he has access to it before. And he said that the main ranking characteristic is subscribes and I’ve tested this a few times like I actually just tested again last week because I changed categories I went from business to self-help personal development because I kind of realized all this time I’ve been trying to build a business show and I don’t talk about finals I don’t talk about all these things so like you kind of got to come to grips where you are. So I wanted to rank in this new category so I got everybody I knew on Facebook and all these other places to subscribe. And I saw an immediate bump of about a hundred spots in that top 200 for that category by getting I think about 15 or 20 people to subscribe. Previously I had gotten like 45 people to subscribe and it jumped me in to number 10 in the category. So that’s just something to think about if you can drive in subscribes and high numbers you’re gonna rank.
Calvin Wayman: Then I think I should probably shift my focus from 2000 reviews and get 2000 subscribers.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: That would be my thought process and you want to get those consistently over time like reviews are great but they don’t help to rank you like you won’t see any difference in ranking.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. So one thing that I noticed that I hit into as I started launching this is I have a lot of Android people and I’m talking mostly apple right like is there anything like the is there anything that an Android user can do to help your ranking or is it just you’re mostly using this third-party stuff like Spotify or Cast Box or Google Play
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Overcast or Google Play. Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: Is that what it’s called overcast?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. overcast is another one I think that’s like really popular right now.
Calvin Wayman: I’ve probably better make sure I’m on a bunch my editors put me on.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: And I think overcast actually pulls Apple’s API feed meaning that it would still rank you in iTunes.
Calvin Wayman: If they subscribed?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Because like so here’s the thing it’s like you have to look at there’s like different feeds out there right?
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: If I’m gonna submit to stitcher and Spotify I have to give them my RSS feed separately. A lot of these other apps actually pull from Apple’s API which means those count those subscriber counts are actually account in iTunes even though they’re not on an Apple device does. That make sense?
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. So what I could do then is kind of shift so one thing I do that’s I think kind of fun is I wanted to make this completely different than any other podcast that I knew and so not only am I giving away a fucking car every episode I’m giving away something. Like just cool stuff like I’ve given away headsets books even like toilet paper that looks like $100 bills like just really fun curious.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Yeah. Like somebody know like space on it or something on
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. It was unfortunately George Washington or whoever’s on that is it Ben or no Ben Franklin he’s on the 100 girls right?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. So there was that but keeping it fun but what I have been doing is people that review it enter the contest but what I think I’m gonna do now is they subscribe
Jeremy Ryann Slate: Screenshot it
Calvin Wayman: Screenshot it and send it to me or I’ll even do one better. Post it to social media with the hashtag #CuriousCalvinWayman
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Hang you.
Calvin Wayman: And tag me and they can tag me or just do the hashtag so that I can search it through hashtags but what that will do is they’re not only sending it to me but there other audience is seeing it and they’re like well what’s this podcast maybe I want to check it out.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I do that your book giveaways I have people like tag me and the person that wrote the book like we do book giveaways in the show.
Calvin Wayman: That’s super awesome. I like this I like this a lot so this is totally
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well gives you some more control over man like if you can get subscribes you’re gonna rank that’s just how it goes. So I would get all of your Android users using overcast player.
Calvin Wayman: Is there something called cast box? Am I
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’m not familiar with that one so it may be something new that I just don’t know about but overcast it’s kind of like the really big one that people are using right now it’s like an orange type platform and it does pull from Apple’s APIs. So it’s gonna rank you very similarly.
Calvi Wayman: So this is how not editing or how real and raw this show is. I’m literally just gonna search it right now.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I think well I believe it’s overcast.
Calvin Wayman: Overcast. I don’t think I’m on it. I just pretty searched curious with Calvin Wayman overcast and
Jeremy Ryan Slate: is the website. You may need that app to actually use it I don’t know. They search podcasts Calvin Wayman. Yeah. Cause I’m in there and I never submitted myself there’s a lot there’s a lot of these third-party sites
Calvin Wayman: Sweet. I’m totally in.
Jeremy Ryab Slate: Yeah there you go. So get people to subscribe to you there man because it pulls from Apple’s API so it’s gonna count the stats the same way and that’s what you want.
Calvn Wayman: Okay. Freak. Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: And that’s that way player FM does the same thing there’s a couple other websites that you never submitted your feed but you’re probably there. So you want to get
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. So they showed me my podcast editor showed me that I was on like some fm and stuff like that. How important is your fucking how do I call it like the show notes that you put on your own website. I haven’t done a ton of that like but
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’ll tell you what man like it’s something I wish I put more time into but you can only put so much time into so many different things and it’s like I really should just hire somebody to do that for me because if you look at a lot of the shows that are crushing it like you know the John Lee Dumas is the Pat Flynn’s of the world their show notes are SEO optimized and that’s the thing
Calvin Wayman: Are they SEO optimized or are they full transcription? Because for me that would be easier.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: John’s not full transcription. He grabs only the important lines and then timestamps. And I think podcast websites does that for him I’m not sure but like that’s something if you can have really great show notes they’re gonna find you in Google which is really important too because you can rank your website and you’re building more than just a podcast you’re actually building an asset of your website.
Calvin Waymman: So my website portion of this barely got finished yesterday I haven’t even announced that it’s there yet. What about when you are bringing talking about an episode on your Instagram stories you’re telling people to check it out or you’re posting something on Instagram or Facebook where do you direct people to make it simple. Do you direct them to your website. Do you say go to iTunes. Do you say go to overcast like what do you do?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: So I have a wordpress plugin called pretty link and it actually lets you make link short links. So
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. That’s kind is pretty link.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. I’ve kind of grooved into my audiences a little bit easier because I can say hey guys go to jeremyryanslate.com/onefiveone or something or one five four and it’s the episode number so what happens is when I’m sending people to the link in the bio all I have to do ever do is change that number. So
Calvin Wayman: So what is that going to the iTunes. Versions of the episodes or that’s going to my overcast?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s going to my actual website. It’s going to my website
Calvin Wayman: Okay.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: which my hosting is still going to pull from that same feed so it should be fine.
Calvin Wayman: Okay cool. So and if you take him to the website then they can decide when they get there. Am I going to listen on iTunes? Am I going to watch the video like this on youtube. Or am I going to do it like on iTunes or on overcast.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. And that’s the crazy part is you always want to see how you can tie back to iTunes because right now since they still own I think like 80 to 90% of the space we’re still you know playing on their playground. so unless somebody else can come up with something different and like if they ever open their API’s which they don’t. And that’s what a lot of these aggregators do is they just pull the RSS feeds from write from Apple.
Calvin Wayman: Do you do any of your episodes on YouTube at this point or no?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: What I do and this is it’s mainly because YouTube’s a powerful search engine so I just want people to find me and I’d rather come you know have them subscribe to my show. So what we do is I don’t like doing video so what we do is we take and we put a static image of you know episode cover art with just the audio in front of it and stick it on YouTube as a video and then show notes. Yeah
Calvin Wayman: So you stick that?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. You stick it with the show notes and everything else because I also want to make it easier for people to find me. So I’m not as worried about the stat in that place I’m more worried about people finding me because it’s a powerful search engine.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. So I’m glad that I’m doing it there plus I think it’s be cool I like kind of the ability to have something like this where you can see the people and watch it if you want.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: And kind of the vision too is when I’m at different events like Grant Cardones 10x Growth Conan Vegas or social media marketing world in San Diego I want to be able to like pull maybe even one two three or four people at a table put on headsets have cameras capturing like kind of just a real raw on sight kind of conversation. And then have it on YouTube as well I think I’d be fun.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: No. Absolutely man that’s the way to go.
Calvin Wayman: Cool. So shifting gears a teeny tiny bet from this stuff to like super guests as you refer to them. Now that’s something that I would imagine is freaking huge. I want to do that more I’ve had some really cool people on already and I have some cool people in my in my network but for people that you don’t even know but you know they’re badass and you want to reach them. What would you tell me like as like this the sweet deep dark secrets of how to get cool people on the show because you’ve had some messes too.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. I get an IMDB Pro account first of all because you can get publicists for famous people and that’s kind of like
Calvin Wayman: IMDB? Is not like the movie?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Internet movie Database which actually I got my first IMDB entry recently very stoked about that. IMDB Pro it’s their pro account I think it’s owned by Amazon by the way. If you didn’t know that IMDB is owned by Amazon.
Calvin Wayman: How much is they account?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: And. Exiting it’s seven bucks a month it’s not crazy but you can what you can do anybody that’s ever appeared in any type of movie or TV show or anything like you can go on there and get there this information or any of that type of stuff. Like you’d be surprised who’s on there like Jeff Bezos is on there you know Elon Musk is on there.
Calvin Wayman: So long but you’re their publicist is on there? Interesting. Right?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Correct. Right. Yeah. Bezos and Musk it’s not because you have to go through their particular companies to get there but for a lot of people their publicist is on there if they have one on staff. So then you can pitch the correct person then that’s a huge thing as well. So now if they’re not on there but you can find like if there’s like a web URL on there you can use hunter.IO which used to be you know and kind of find out who that person is and I recommend like when you’re gonna send these emails. Use a gmail plug-in called either mix max or the other one is banana tag and it lets you see if people actually opened it. Because
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Because you want to see if they opened it because then if they don’t you know come up with a better subject line and keep pounding it.
Calvin Wayman: There’s another one that I highly recommend for people listening that I’ve been using that is such a freaking lifesaver it’s boomerang. It’s
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Oh boomerang. Good.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. It’s really freaking cool because you like can just do a checkbox to say send back to me within a day or two days. If they did not open it. So they didn’t open it or didn’t read it it’ll come to the top of your inbox and then literally you can just reply you can like get busy you can send out 30 of these emails like not even keep track of them and then they come back to your inbox and then you can just reply back as though it’s still on your mind to the same email. And say hey did you see this email just wanted to check back and I’ve got you
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I saw you well what like one of the issues I’ve had with boomerang is like the person receiving the boomerang. I don’t think this happens to you is like I’ve had this happen with a few people like well answer their email and then they just keep boomeranging me over and over and over and over again it’s like but I already answered your email dude and it’s happened like a few times.
Calvin Wayman: I also happen to me. At least late I’ve been using it for I guess about a year and a half now. I’ve had many boomerangs come back to me but it’s only because I freaking keep checking the box and say bring it.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Great.
Calvin Wayman: So you probably just have to double check and make sure the boomerang box isn’t checked.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. No I’m not the person sending him somebody I’m being a podcaster I’m getting the pitches from other people I’m answering the pitches and saying hey this is hey this isn’t the fit and I’m getting pounded with the exact same email over and over and over again
Calvin Wayman: Somebody else is boomeranging and you they have boomerang?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Somebody has happened a couple times with a couple different publicists where they’ll boomerang the heck out of me and it’s like I answer them like I give him a response and they just keep sending me the same email like they never saw it.
Calvin Wayman: That is super interesting.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s happened to me with a couple different people and it’s like I have no problem chatting with you about it or whatever but it’s like once that you’re sending me the same thing like you never heard me it’s weird.
Calvin Waymann: So I hear a random question that I just have thought I asked as a podcaster. How the fuck do you tell people now. Like this is something
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s really hard.
Calvin Wayman: I really really surprised of like I’ve had a pretty solid audience and I’ve had really cool conversations with a lot of people but as soon as I launched this I mean if you’re my friend listening to this and you’ve asked like god bless you because I respect the hustle but I get questions all the time now. People it’s like Yeah I mean it’s Curious With Calvin Wayman so it’s like things I’m genuinely curious about like how to freaking start a podcast which is why we’re having this conversation but how do you tell people no one like I have a countless people like can I have come on your podcast like can I come talk about this like if you’re not curious about it or you have no real interest like what do you do? Do you get that by the way do you get people like asking you all the time you must.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Oh dude it’s and it’s tough too because it’s like a lot of times people I really like but it doesn’t fit with what I’m doing on my show. You know
Calvin Wayman: Exactly.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: That wasn’t I’m called create your own life so I was like oh I did that and it’s like well yeah but like I don’t know I feel like I’m looking for something more specific. So I’ve done a couple different things like one thing setting up a call and seeing like hey do we match another thing saying you know like you know this is what I’m looking for I get you’re doing some cool stuff it doesn’t really line and the Thursday
Calvin Wayman: So you just honest with it
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. And the third thing I use when people just don’t really get it is my Google Form Application so then I can just like kind of be like oh well you know I we took a look at it I’ll keep this on file for if we ever do go down this way but right now it’s not what I’m looking to do.
Calvin Wayman: Got it because right now I don’t even have an application I have what I sent you which is an invite. So I’m inviting and say hey I think it’d be a good fit like I don’t know it was just it was a just I mean I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised like
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayan: it would have been but it just happened so much and the tough part is like what you just said it’s people you like.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Yeah. Higher to these every month and I don’t want to offend anybody but it’s like
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I can only have so many spots.
Calvin Wayman: Right. Right. Yeah I have only so many spots and it needs to be something like this
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Right.
Calvin Wayman: that you can if you’re interested in you’ll talk about it and instead if you’re just kind of going back and forth and you’re not really like interested in it then there’s not gonna be any conversation. By the way how long have we been on yeah see we’re like 30 minutes in ishh close and just went by I didn’t even mean to. There was something else though I want it
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Because it has to be like interesting for like you as a host as well like you get it you may really like this person but if it’s not an interesting topic like
Calvin Wayman: Right.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: you can’t keep it going you know.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. There was something else I was gonna ask you what comes back to me. So I am DB account.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I am DB Pro not just
Calvin Wayman: I am DB Pro. Oh I remembered I was going to ask. So you’ve done a lot of these colder reach outs and some of them have converted to get really cool people have you ever tried just having somebody intro you with some of them like you know the person you want you know a mutual friend or something like will you intro me. And how you notice the difference in conversions with something like that versus reach out to a publicist or reach out to them directly.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It depends it really does because I’ve had like that’s how I got to talk to Hal Elrod on the show is I got a great connect and it would you know ended up being a great fit but then there’s other times people to be like oh I’ll connect you to this person this person in this person and all they did was scrape their email from somewhere they actually don’t have a reputation a
Calvin Wayman: Connection relationship.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Really yeah a relationship with that person so it’s like it’s tough because sometimes it’s really worked other times it’s backfired I mean I had one recently where the person like wrote me this long email about how the person that connected us didn’t actually know them and that this was offensive and it was spam and everything else I’m like whoa okay I wasn’t even the one saying the email. So it’s tough a lot of times it does work to convert signal we better but there are some times when people don’t actually know people and say they do.
Calvin Wayman: Okay that’s good to know. Cool. So now kind of shifting gears to like you’ve had now this podcast your create your own life podcast for 2 years like what’s been?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Um. Yeah. We’re in year three actually so we’re we’ve been around a while man.
Calvin Wayman: So what have you really really liked about it.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: The ability to meet people that probably wouldn’t give me the time of day if I didn’t have a platform where I could like give them some attention you know I mean it’s you yeah it’s huge and it’s like and it’s like yeah it also helped me to build a business like in our in our command your brand company but besides that I it’s just like been amazing because it’s like my life is talking to people like how freaking cool is that?
Calvin Wayman: 100% it’s like I talked about this in one of my vlogs my millionaire case study episodes that like I had so fucking much fun like a week doing this and I was like if I can dial this in where there’s really a monetization piece like right now I’m cool for playing the long game doing a year 2 years 3 years but if I can make like a full living on this? Game over.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: Like it’s insane and it’s like it also to your point it’s to like the title of your show it’s like so insane the world we live in we can do shit like that like we can literally say what am I interested in how can I build a business around it. And you freaking kick like the six-year-old just had made like $10 million on YouTube.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: Like unboxing toys how freaking cool is that it’s insane.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’ve love the unboxings man I’ll do that right now.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Or something you’re curious about or like this dad and kid that like are super popular for like cutting in the middle of things like inside this and so like something like you and I like curious to talk to people and having cool conversations and you can build something around it like even just having via the at-bat have a chance to do it the opportunity is like insane like
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: anytime I hear people bitching and moaning and complaining about social media or the world we live in I’m like this is a freaking miracle this is awesome.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Exactly. Right. Like I’d be playing something way different than I don’t want to do
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I love it man I think our hard work to our parents time was like doing something really hard that you hated but I would rather just do hard work with something that is fun like this that doesn’t feel like work. So talk to me how you’ve been able to like go deeper into like your business idea or how you’ve been able to monetize it at what time line did you say hmm how can I actually use this as leverage? To make money to build a business is it just the service that you provide do you do any sponsorships on the show like walk me through that.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. What I did is like 6 months in I already started doing sponsorships but I kind of found that the like the standard they try to apply is the CPM or costs per thousand. And for a lot of us it’s
Calvin Wayman: Fast 4000 downloads?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. That’s what they typically do but unless you’re like entrepreneur on fire art of charm you really can’t make money that way. So what a lot of us you know at least I’ve kind of led the charge in is doing a flat fee. Meaning like I can charge somebody let’s say 50 to 100 bucks 200 bucks to the charge in my episode. I have a friend that does about the same numbers as me and charges 15 an episode for people to advertise with him and he just charges a flat fee find the right advertiser. Find somebody that’s a match and it’s a great deal for them. So I did that right away and I’ve kind of just stuck with the flat fee thing because I just don’t like the idea of CPM because unless you’re having millions and millions and millions of downloads it’s just not worth it. So that’s
Calvin Wayman: That’s a lot of sense?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Because we have it there’s of defining the article. There’s a great article from Wired Magazine with the recent Apple stats have a they brought in this like beta stats thing how they can see how long people actually listening to your episodes now and they found out the engagement is like ridiculous like compared to TV or radio anything else they said it’s the best place for an advertiser to spend their money so here’s the thing
Calvin Wayman: Really?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. We’re more I’ll find this article from Wired Magazine. It’s we’re a best place for an advertiser to spend their money. So it’s kind of like if you’re looking at that then sure I can charge more money. I don’t need to look at your stupid CPM thing like I don’t need to do that. So 6 months in I was already doing that and I’ve been doing that so I mean
Calvin Wayman: So how did you find those sponsors that they start looking for you. What did you just start saying yes. How do you choose your sponsor because I personally don’t want to sponsor anything on the show unless I’m fucking reviews it like I want to I wouldn’t mind getting sponsorships for like audible or if airBnB does it or if in uber and lyft or the caught up
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Audible
Calvin Wayman: or headspace like really that I use no I wouldn’t mind having those as sponsorships.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. Audible you can right now. They’re affiliate program is awesome and they pay 15 bucks for every sign up and it costs
Calvin Wayman: So I can just like sign up without even letting them know I can just like this episode is brought to you by audible.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. And the thing I do with my show is like I always tell people like what I’m reading right now it’s like hey right now I’m reading Shoe Dog by Phil Knight which I am which is awesome and I say you can get a free copy if you go over to you know jeremyryanslate.com whatever
Calvin Wayman: So I can just say calvinwayman.com/audible like create some link that how where do I get the affiliate link is suggested
Jeremy Ryan Slate: audibletrial.com and then you can sign up over there you get your free you get your affiliate link and it’s kind of cool because literally like there are
Calvin Wayman: So if I go there
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You get an audible trial account. You need it audible like their affiliate account. So what you need.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. Okay.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Audible affiliates just Google audible affiliates you’ll find it and for me like here’s the thing it’s like they know that user retention for them is so high that they’re willing to pay you $15 for you to give away a free account to your listeners. That’s pretty cool. And they get a free 30-day free book which is great so anything
Calvin Wayman: You know what. You just inspire me to think out me something. You make
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You get “Fish Out of water”
Calvin Wayman: No. For real for I just realized something when I launched this my book “Fish Out of Water”. I gotta go see if they have a better affiliate program on the crate space because if somebody listened to my book. For the first time. There are some I got what was called a bounty. And it’s not 15 bucks it was it’s 50 bucks.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Wow! You go check that out there man.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. So I got a trivia.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You just got to be flexible this stuff and just not I guess think of a sponsor just being one thing you get what I’m saying?
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: So it’s something you really have to consider you know when putting it together so it could be affiliates it could be flat rate. I got a lot of inbound sponsorship requests I even had somebody run in my social media accounts for a couple months in exchange to like use their service and show. So it’s like different things you can do
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I think I remember you saying using them.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: So it’s like you can get you can get different people and a lot of inbound requests now if you want to have there’s also another thing I use called advertised cast.
Calvin Wayman: Okay.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: And basically can list your show on there your number of downloads and stuff like that and your rates so I can do that right in my show and people can apply to be a sponsor with me and I can say you know what I think this fits great let’s do it.
Calvin Wayman: Love it. What has made you more money doing stuff like this and these different sponsorships or using your podcast as leverage to running your business or your service.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Without a doubt using my podcast as the leverage because the other stuff just kind of like you know it’s kind of some play money and it funds the show. But using my podcast as leverage to create a business there’s nothing close to it. And that’s the thing I always end up talking about is a podcast is great but you need a back-end business behind it. You look at any of these guys you know like they have a back-end business behind it and the podcast is just the mouthpiece to get people to know about you because like from
Calvin Wayman: It’s the top of the funnel type of a thing.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Exactly. Like it’s that first touch for people to get to know about you create some notoriety for me it’s gotten me stuff like Inc Forbes entrepreneur so it’s helped in that way and
Calvin Wayman: Are you building an email listing by any chance? I have no idea how I do you do that like you are
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You gotta get people to your website so you need to give some sort of an often. So for me it’s the 5 tools that I used in the unconventional ways that I use them.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. One thing I have thought of doing is getting people over to like a Facebook group.I try to do that it’s kind of slow moving right now so the conversation can keep going for people listening this episode for example they can go to calvinwayman.com/podcastgroup they’re invited in and then all of these episodes are in there and kind of my vision there is having a thread of conversation.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: On everything but I just haven’t had a ton of luck I mean it’s a month old pot has some old
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: So I have a ton of people go in there yet but I said yeah that’s kind of what I want to do but the often idea is
Jeremy Ryan Slate: If it were me
Calvin Wayman: I mean that’s just what it’s just what that I mean that’s what is the the proven thing that has been working to get emails.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah I just used Sumo welcome at so it just covers the whole page and whatever.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. Cool.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: And it’s just this is kind of funny mags I feel like I have to check out your interview with Michael O’Neal’s I feel like his was much more about like the how of it and I feel like this is more like growth hacking.
Calvin Wayman: This is. Yeah. So his was more of like the entry point this is going deeper with how to actually make it work so his was like it’s insane how easy just to have a podcast now and you need that. And he’s also way more he has more finesse he has more
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: like making the audio sound really good he’s the one
Jeremy Ryan Slate: He’s the ultimate interviewer. So it’s incredible.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I love Michael and the thing that’s really that he made me really consider is like even though people are listening to this and it might sound really good or okay. Fucking wait into like next week’s episode because I’m gonna be shifting from this headset to like a really really really good headset and really have the sound quality and that came from him. I want to just add some quality to it. The only thing this is so freaking weird just kind of caveat the only reason I’m not using the other headset yet is because I’m waiting for the box to arrive from Amazon like that you gotta like plug the headset into. Then
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s probably an XLR
Calvin Wayman: I think so and this is what’s freaking crazy I’ve never seen this with FedEx before but my fucking package is looping from Phoenix to California to Phoenix to California right now it’s caught in a freaking loop and I don’t know what they have to do to till like say get this son of a bitch to me from Phoenix to where I live in Northern Arizona what the is going on.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Oh my gosh.
Calvin Wayman: like Amazon thinks that it got to me already. But it’s been like two and a half three weeks because I ordered it like right after Michael O’Neal’s episode and it’s I have the headsets I don’t have the box and I’m checking it yesterday and the date keeps getting pushed back because it keeps going from California I have no idea
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I would call them man because I was talking I was at an event on Sunday it’s called brunch work out here and I was one speaker and the other speaker was a guy named David Pakman and Dave is talking about like he’s like wouldn’t it be cool if we could put more block chain on like logistics and delivery and stuff because
Calvin Wayman: 100%.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: because he goes the postal service keeps tell my amazon package arrived and it like was geotagged at my door and it never got here he’s like so I had I called Amazon it made him send me a new one.
Calvin Wayman: Dude. What the fuck is a role to get like 5 years and 10 years
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’m telling you in the yeah if you haven’t checked it out those ship Chain Brian Evans’s company. They’re gonna like blow this out of the water because that’s what they’re doing they’re doing logistics and shipping with black chain.
Calvin Wayman: Dude. I have a URL that maybe it’ll be worth something someday I’ve had it like for five years I bought it like right before I got into entrepreneurship called shipped already .com
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Nice.
Calvin Wayman: and I want it like something that to make it feel like that once you buy it it’s already shipped like it’s already on its way. I hope Amazon or some black chain shipping check technology wants it someday. I wouldn’t mind giving it to them for quarter mil or something that’d be alright. So but I want to go a little bit deeper on really quick on how you started using your podcast as leverage for a business did you jump right into the thing that you’re doing now did you kind of like work your way into it walk me through that because I want to see
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah so what we actually started doing is we started in podcast production for people
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I’ts that thing like well just the common thing is that like entrepreneurship t-shirt companies is one of the first things you get because that’s literally like a Korean
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s kind of like. Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: I have a product right now called voice launch that helps people watch their voice either on social media or their podcast. So is that kind of similar what you got into like the post-production or the creation of
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. What it was like I do the show vision I do all this stuff and then my wife’s been in PR for so long so one of the things we said is well people need to know about him before he launched the show. So we were getting people on other shows. So we did this for a while it was great but it was just like it was too much of a bear like it was this like big thing
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: that I didn’t want to do and like I don’t have a production house or any of that and like I have friends that do it and do it way better than I do because the whole team everything else. So what we started doing was guest booking for other people and the first iteration of that was called get featured and I had a business partner everything there and
Calvin Wayman: Kind of like podcast valley or something I’ve
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Yeah. Smilar but we have a little bit of a different viewpoint on it where we actually like take them through story message call-to-action we get them comfortable we have a whole course we put them through first and then we also do like their funnel and stuff like that we have a funnel template we share with them so we have a we take a lot of responsibility for that. So the original iteration was called yet featured. I had a business partner.
Calvin Wayman: That’s getting a guest on other podcast okay?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Racked back but like more of a PR viewpoint. My wife was the third partner there we had a little bit of a disagreement on where we wanted things to go. So that ended in like October of last year. And since October of last year we’ve been running the company as command your brand media doing the exact same thing except now we’re launching a digital course about how to get booked on podcast and all that kind of stuff so I’m kind of really excited
Calvin Wayman: Cool. So you’ve done doing a digital course so that is
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well. Plus he service the service.
Calvin Wayman: So you got the service and the course. So the course is the front end of the funnel type of the thing. So you can sell a lower-end course for like what 300 bucks or something? What do you sell it for?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: 997.
Calvin Wayman: Oh cool.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Because it’s a total done for your course. Yeah because somebody could like could take this and do exactly what we do within their company. So that it’s like literally everything I know about how to get booked on a podcast and do everything with it.
Calvin Wayman: So people and the audience that you’re pitching out doing that people on your podcast show it’s almost like you’re just a sponsor for yourself?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Well it’s that and then we also we have a few like JV partners and stuff that we’ve been working with. We actually we’re launching it next Monday so we’re still working on finalizing who our JB’s are and everything for that. So I’m really
Calvin Wayman: So this is in some that’s in play at that’s making your money as the
Jeremy Ryan Slate: No. It will be on Monday though.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. Cool. So the money that you have made is like with the guest booking you did
Jeremy Ryan Slate: 100%.
Calvn Wayman: Okay. Cool man. So kind of coming in for landing this was fucking awesome. Several things like for real like the flat rate thing was awesome getting the PR people through or the booking people through the IMDB Pro account
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Which by the way man. Have you’ve been on TV before?
Calvin Wayman: Aha.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: You have an IMDB entry?
Calvin Wayman: No. What do you mean?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: So when you get an IMDB Pro account because you’ve been on TV before. You can create an IMDB entry for yourself and that’s one of the things they look at for verifying your social accounts like to get that blue checkmark is that you’ve been on like TV or something like that I usually look for IMDB or Wikipedia.
Calvin Wayman: Do you have the blue checkmark?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Not there yet but I just got my first Wikipedia entry. So get a couple more of those in it not Wikipedia IMDB entry so that should help me.
Calvin Wayman: So I
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I do on Twitter. I don’t on Facebook.
Calvin Wayman: Man I want that so freaking bad I don’t know why. I don’t
Jeremy Ryan Slate: What are its closed right now because they like verify to white supremacist a few months ago and got themselves in trouble.
Calvin Wayman: I want it on Instagram and Facebook like nobody’s business like
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: I can’t wait to get that like I have friends that I don’t know how the fuck they got it that have like half the friend count stuff like that I’m like come on man I’ve been on like a hundred different podcast
Jeremy Ryann Slate: It’s been the place it’s
Calvin Wayman: I have a book.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. It’s the positioning of it like you need to like make it look like you’re a member of the media like because then they care it’s like because you’ve written for entrepreneur you’ve written for these offices
Calvin Wayman: Yeah.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s just how you’re writing the pitch so if you want to like talk to me later about that weekend.
Calvin Wayman: Okay. Totally. Awesome and then so kind of what’s next that’s kind of what I’m curious about like do you have any events coming up that you’re planning on going to speaking to attending like what’s next for you bro?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Right now it’s we’re heads down in course launch that’s pretty much what we’re looking at right now I just spoke here last week at a place called brunch work which is pretty cool. We had like almost 100 entrepreneurs there. So besides that nothing really on the docket till like the middle of summer so that’s kind of we’re looking at right now is this course launch and everything else.
Calvin Wayman: Well. I hope that bump into you at some other event. Again even like even though you’re so freaking big like show your muscles by the way from people that aren’t you
Jeremy Ryan Slate: I’m wearing a long sleeve shirt.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. I’m looking probably like crack it through how do you still lift? till even now? You’re doing it?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Absolutely it’s funny I just did this video recently this week I’m like recommitting to my fitness because I used to be a competitive power lifter I weighed 5 foot 7. I weighed 217 pounds. 10% body fat.
Calvin Wayman: So insane bro.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Now I’m down to like a buck 65 so I figure I can get up to about a buck 75 buckety and I’m usually pretty good at that point and be happy with that.
Calvin Wayman: I want to do that at another point my life like Adelaide on like now that I’ve slimmed down and lost some weight I want me. Right now my focus is flexibility I want to really
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: like I’m doing yoga every single day and trying to get my hamstrings where they can I want to be able to like sit on my ass and like fold all the way down.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: like that would be a dream or the splits now this. So
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Here’s the interesting thing though. It’s like I shocked the hell out of my wife on this every time because she’s like talking about some of these yoga poses and like how hard they are and I’m like oh watch this she’s like how do you do that I’m late cause I have good core strength and I can like just do some of these things and I also did it whenever
Calvin Wayman: Are you pretty flexible because I hear
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: a lot of body builders are like blocks but I’ve never seen you walk like a freaking tank. You’re actually
Jeremy Ryan Slate: It’s I was a wrestler in school so I’ve always maintained a lot of that flexibility for me.
Calvin Wayman: Yeah. That’s awesome. Cool bro. So where is the best place for people to find you you’re on the socials and stuff like that
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: So for people that are like dude this Jeremy guy is dope I want to see his pecs more I want to listen to his podcast or reject him
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah.
Calvin Wayman: on email or social. Where’s the best place?
Jeremy Ryan Slate: well I’m Jeremy Ryan Slate on all platforms and my website is jeremyryanslate.com also I put together a checklist for your audience on how they can become an awesome podcast guest over at
Calvin Wayman: Awesome.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: commandyourbrand.media/checklist.
Calvin Wayman: commandyourbrand.media/checklist. Go check that out guys because this was a freaking badass step episode. Okay bro thank you so much peace out and see you around thank you so much for coming on.
Jeremy Ryan Slate: Yeah. Thanks for having me man.
Calvin Wayman: You’re welcome. And before I close again this episode was brought to you by the Amplify Tour Event that I’ll be speaking at in Tampa Florida next month March 9th to the 11th. So you guys know I am massively like big on connecting with other badass people like Jeremy Ryan Slade or other speakers and like getting around the like just other people that are aiming higher because when you’re around that it comes off on to you and it stretches your thinking and that’s how you can come progress even further. So to come to the amplify tour go to calvinwayman.com/amplifytour and right now Yasemin the host of the event is giving $100 discount off of the regular admission price $200 discount on the VIP. VIP is badass because you get a hangout with the speakers and they also get like gourmet luncheons and stuff like that but the other cool thing that we’re doing is you get a buy one get one free on this ticket. Now here’s the one caveat nobody else is getting this except the Curious with Calvin women community. So in the comments when you check out you literally have to say I’m a Curious with Calvin Wayman communities so that they know that you actually get the buy one get one as well so you get the $100 discount plus an extra ticket. So I would love to see in Tampa Florida go to calvinwayman.com/amplifytour and I’ll see you in Tampa and I will also see you on the next Curious With Calvin Wayman episode. Peace!
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